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J.Bakshi [j.bakshi at icmail.net]


Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:02:27 +0530

Dear list,

I am in a process to optimize my linux box with low fat tools. I have already icewm running with geany editor, parcellite clipboard, audacious, aterm, claws-mail. Some more applications are missing and I am seeking your kind advise here.

1> what might be a little and fast sound mixer applet to use with icewm ?

2> A screen capture tool that can be fitted in icewm taskbar and have the features like ksnapshot.

I still have problem with idesk. It can't provide the wallpaper though having the right path of Background file. It alwasy shows error like

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[idesk] Background's file not found.
[idesk] Background's source not found.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Please suggest,

Thanks


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Thomas Adam [thomas.adam22 at gmail.com]


Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:46:51 +0000

2009/3/11 J.Bakshi <j.bakshi@icmail.net>:

> Dear list,
>
> I am in a process to optimize my linux box with low fat tools. I have already
> icewm running with geany editor, parcellite clipboard, audacious, aterm,
> claws-mail.  Some more applications are missing and I am seeking your kind
> advise here.
>
> 1> what might be a little and fast sound mixer applet to use with icewm ?

These are generally hard to come by that aren't explicitly tied into GNOME or KDE -- you might find something in the adesklets stuff.

> 2> A screen capture tool that can be fitted in icewm taskbar and have the
> features like ksnapshot.

Does this really have to be a systray thing? Use feh(1).

-- Thomas Adam


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Ben Okopnik [ben at linuxgazette.net]


Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:14:26 -0400

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:46:51PM +0000, Thomas Adam wrote:

> 2009/3/11 J.Bakshi <j.bakshi@icmail.net>:
> > Dear list,
> >
> > I am in a process to optimize my linux box with low fat tools. I have already
> > icewm running with geany editor, parcellite clipboard, audacious, aterm,
> > claws-mail.  Some more applications are missing and I am seeking your kind
> > advise here.
> >
> > 1> what might be a little and fast sound mixer applet to use with icewm ?
> 
> These are generally hard to come by that aren't explicitly tied into
> GNOME or KDE -- you might find something in the adesklets stuff.

I use 'cam' with a script that allows me to adjust it incrementally, 5% at a time - and I tie that script to 'Ctrl-Alt-A' (which triggers "voladj -u") and 'Ctrl-Alt-Z' ("voladj -d"). These are specified in my ~/.icewm/keys and adjust the volume up and down respectively.

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# Created by Ben Okopnik on Sat Jun  1 01:00:39 EDT 2002
 
die "Usage: ", $0 =~ /([^\/]+)$/, " -q|-u|-d\n" unless @ARGV && $ARGV[0] =~ /^-[qud]$/;
 
# Save current volume level, which may be different from the .camrc...
system qw/cam -save/ and die "Weirdness has occured: save failed. $!\n";
 
open RC, "$ENV{HOME}/.camrc" or die "Couldn't open ~/.camrc: $!\n";
 
# Read only the second line (volume)
while (<RC>){ ( $vol ) = /(\d+)/ if $. == 2; }
 
die "Volume is currently set at $vol%.\n" if $ARGV[0] =~ /^-q$/;
$ARGV[0] =~ /u/ ? ( $vol > 95 ) || ( $vol += 5 ): ( $vol < 25 ) || ( $vol -= 5 );
system "cam -v $vol,$vol -p $vol,$vol -S $vol,$vol -c $vol,$vol"
	and die "cam: $!\n";
> > 2> A screen capture tool that can be fitted in icewm taskbar and have the
> > features like ksnapshot.
> 
> Does this really have to be a systray thing?  Use feh(1).

Cool tool - thanks, Thomas!

I'm not familiar with 'ksnapshot', but since GNOME is installed on my system, I just tied "/usr/bin/gnome-screenshot -i" to a toolbar icon (done in ~/.icewm/toolbar).

-- 
* Ben Okopnik * Editor-in-Chief, Linux Gazette * https://LinuxGazette.NET *


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J.Bakshi [j.bakshi at icmail.net]


Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:10:07 +0530

On Thursday 12 Mar 2009 3:16:51 am Thomas Adam wrote:

> 2009/3/11 J.Bakshi <j.bakshi@icmail.net>:
> > Dear list,
> >
> > I am in a process to optimize my linux box with low fat tools. I have
> > already icewm running with geany editor, parcellite clipboard, audacious,
> > aterm, claws-mail.  Some more applications are missing and I am seeking
> > your kind advise here.
> >
> > 1> what might be a little and fast sound mixer applet to use with icewm ?
>
> These are generally hard to come by that aren't explicitly tied into
> GNOME or KDE -- you might find something in the adesklets stuff.
>
> > 2> A screen capture tool that can be fitted in icewm taskbar and have the
> > features like ksnapshot.
>
> Does this really have to be a systray thing?  Use feh(1).

Hello Thomas,

Thanks for pointing out feh. It is really nice image viewer as well as fast, ligh-weight. I'm also looking into adesklets but puppy now a days draw my attention too. This distro also uses specially the tools which are fast and low fat. Regarding screen capture I'm really searching a tool/command so that I can add an icon in the toolbar and take screen shot when ever required. a command line tool can also solve this but I have no idea which tool can support region selection too.

Thanks


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Ben Okopnik [ben at linuxgazette.net]


Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:17:58 -0400

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:10:07PM +0530, J.Bakshi wrote:

> 
> I'm also looking into adesklets but puppy now a days draw my 
> attention too. This distro also uses specially the tools which are fast and 
> low fat.

Except their security model sucks. Everything is done as root, and trying to turn it back into a "normal" system is just about impossible. Puppy is a cute demonstrator, but I wouldn't use it for anything more than that.

> Regarding screen capture I'm really searching a tool/command so 
> that I can add an icon in the toolbar and take screen shot when ever 
> required. a command line tool can also solve this but I have no idea which 
> tool can support region selection too.

'xsnap' is really lightweight and has region selection and lots of other features. I got it from an old issue of LG, and it still works great: 'https://linuxgazette.net/issue67/evans.html'.

-- 
* Ben Okopnik * Editor-in-Chief, Linux Gazette * https://LinuxGazette.NET *


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J.Bakshi [j.bakshi at icmail.net]


Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:01:17 +0530

On Thursday 12 Mar 2009 10:10:07 pm J.Bakshi wrote:

> On Thursday 12 Mar 2009 3:16:51 am Thomas Adam wrote:
> > 2009/3/11 J.Bakshi <j.bakshi@icmail.net>:
> > > Dear list,
> > >
> > > I am in a process to optimize my linux box with low fat tools. I have
> > > already icewm running with geany editor, parcellite clipboard,
> > > audacious, aterm, claws-mail.  Some more applications are missing and I
> > > am seeking your kind advise here.
> > >
> > > 1> what might be a little and fast sound mixer applet to use with icewm
> > > ?
> >
> > These are generally hard to come by that aren't explicitly tied into
> > GNOME or KDE -- you might find something in the adesklets stuff.
> >
> > > 2> A screen capture tool that can be fitted in icewm taskbar and have
> > > the features like ksnapshot.
> >
> > Does this really have to be a systray thing?  Use feh(1).
>
> Hello Thomas,
>
> Thanks for pointing out feh. It is really nice image viewer as well as
> fast, ligh-weight. I'm also looking into adesklets but puppy now a days
> draw my attention too. This distro also uses specially the tools which are
> fast and low fat.  Regarding screen capture I'm really searching a
> tool/command so that I can add an icon in the toolbar and take screen shot
> when ever required. a command line tool can also solve this but I have no
> idea which tool can support region selection too.

I have found scrot :-) The combination of scrot+feh really rocks !! scrot+gpicview is also good but gpicvies is little bit slower than feh.


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Rick Moen [rick at linuxmafia.com]


Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:50:46 -0700

Quoting J.Bakshi (j.bakshi@icmail.net):

> Regarding screen capture I'm really searching a tool/command so 
> that I can add an icon in the toolbar and take screen shot when ever 
> required. a command line tool can also solve this but I have no idea which 
> tool can support region selection too.

I maintain a listing of options here: "Screen Capture" on https://linuxmafia.com/kb/Apps

Items covered:

o  GIMP's "File: Acquire: Screen Shot" tool
o  xpaint
o  MagiCapture (requires ImageMagick)
o  Captura (proprietary)
o  Screen-Shooter (GNOME; requires ImageMagick)
o  "xwd | display -" or "sleep 10; xwd -root > dump"
o  KSnapshot (KDE)
o  fbshot (for framebuffer)
o  fbgrab (for framebuffer)
o  import (in ImageMagick)
o  Electric Eyes (GNOME; aka "ee")
o  EasyCopy (proprietary)
o  scrot
o  "cat /dev/vcs4 > screenshot" for virtual consoles (root user)
o  snapscreenshot for virtual consoles (root user -- unmaintained)
o  TiLP
o  vcsadump (for virtual consoles)
o  XScreenCapture
o  xsnap
o  Shutterbug
o  xv (proprietary)
o  Wink (proprietary, x86-only)


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J.Bakshi [j.bakshi at icmail.net]


Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:47:31 +0530

On Friday 13 Mar 2009 11:20:46 pm Rick Moen wrote:

> Quoting J.Bakshi (j.bakshi@icmail.net):
> > Regarding screen capture I'm really searching a tool/command so
> > that I can add an icon in the toolbar and take screen shot when ever
> > required. a command line tool can also solve this but I have no idea
> > which tool can support region selection too.

Hello Rick,

Thanks a lot for your list. I'll surely go through it. Yesterday I have configured scrot with feh as a screenshot :-) But I still miss the virtual console capture which is there in your list.

Thanks


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Ben Okopnik [ben at linuxmafia.com]


Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:07:09 -0400

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:47:31AM +0530, J.Bakshi wrote:

> 
> Thanks a lot for your list. I'll surely go through it.  Yesterday I have 
> configured scrot with feh as a screenshot :-)

I'm curious: how did you set it up? Given the number of options that 'feh' offers (the templates you can define in ~/.fehrc and the way that symlinks trigger the template behavior is just a fantastic feature), combining the two sounds like a useful thing to do.

-- 
* Ben Okopnik * Editor-in-Chief, Linux Gazette * https://LinuxGazette.NET *


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J.Bakshi [j.bakshi at unlimitedmail.org]


Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:34:24 +0530

On Sunday 15 Mar 2009 10:37:09 pm Ben Okopnik wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:47:31AM +0530, J.Bakshi wrote:
> > Thanks a lot for your list. I'll surely go through it.  Yesterday I have
> > configured scrot with feh as a screenshot :-)
>
> I'm curious: how did you set it up? Given the number of options that
> 'feh' offers (the templates you can define in ~/.fehrc and the way that
> symlinks trigger the template behavior is just a fantastic feature),
> combining the two sounds like a useful thing to do.
.icewm/toolbar
------------------------------
<snip>

prog "screenshot" /usr/share/pixmaps/eye-16.xpm  scrot -s -q 100 -e 'feh $f'

</snip>


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Ben Okopnik [ben at linuxgazette.net]


Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:28:47 -0400

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:34:24PM +0530, J.Bakshi wrote:

> On Sunday 15 Mar 2009 10:37:09 pm Ben Okopnik wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:47:31AM +0530, J.Bakshi wrote:
> > > Thanks a lot for your list. I'll surely go through it.  Yesterday I have
> > > configured scrot with feh as a screenshot :-)
> >
> > I'm curious: how did you set it up? Given the number of options that
> > 'feh' offers (the templates you can define in ~/.fehrc and the way that
> > symlinks trigger the template behavior is just a fantastic feature),
> > combining the two sounds like a useful thing to do.
> 
> .icewm/toolbar
> ------------------------------
> <snip>
> 
> prog "screenshot" /usr/share/pixmaps/eye-16.xpm  scrot -s -q 100 -e 'feh $f'

Very nice - thanks. They're both excellent programs with a pleasant UI and a nicely-rounded set of features, although I wish 'scrot' was documented a bit better: it supports the three features I want in a screenshot program (select area, snap window, snap everything) but mentions only one of them in the man page. Just FYI, right-clicking in a window after executing 'scrot -s' snaps that window, and right-clicking on the root window (the background) snaps everything.

-- 
* Ben Okopnik * Editor-in-Chief, Linux Gazette * https://LinuxGazette.NET *


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J.Bakshi [j.bakshi at icmail.net]


Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:26:24 +0530

On Tuesday 17 Mar 2009 12:08:31 pm JOYDEEP wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:34:24PM +0530, J.Bakshi wrote:
> > On Sunday 15 Mar 2009 10:37:09 pm Ben Okopnik wrote:
> > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:47:31AM +0530, J.Bakshi wrote:
> > > > Thanks a lot for your list. I'll surely go through it.  Yesterday I
> > > > have configured scrot with feh as a screenshot :-)
> > >
> > > I'm curious: how did you set it up? Given the number of options that
> > > 'feh' offers (the templates you can define in ~/.fehrc and the way that
> > > symlinks trigger the template behavior is just a fantastic feature),
> > > combining the two sounds like a useful thing to do.
> >
> > .icewm/toolbar
> > ------------------------------
> > <snip>
> >
> > prog "screenshot" /usr/share/pixmaps/eye-16.xpm  scrot -s -q 100 -e 'feh
> > $f'
>
> Very nice - thanks. They're both excellent programs with a pleasant UI
> and a nicely-rounded set of features, although I wish 'scrot' was
> documented a bit better: it supports the three features I want in a
> screenshot program (select area, snap window, snap everything) but
> mentions only one of them in the man page. Just FYI, right-clicking in a
> window after executing 'scrot -s' snaps that window, and right-clicking
> on the root window (the background) snaps everything.

"scrot -s" also allow to select a region. It would be helpful if scrot change the normal mouse pointer to something else so that it will be nice to see that we are right now in capturing mode.

You can also use gpicview replacing feh. gpicvies is little bit fancier. But feh is compareably faster than gpicview.


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